>>228436212>How is that not kneeling to them?
If he knelt to them, he'd become Archer. Archer is only upset because he was not content with just accept he'd done all he could to find happiness. In Fate and UBW, he's content with pursuing himself. >His ideals were the most important thing in the world to him
It's not everything to him though, and his actual reason for following them is part of UBW. He's at his core, a base man trying to find his own happiness. Exactly like Kotomine Kirei. >it's a bad ending for a reason.
Yes. I don't get what you are trying to accomplish with saying this as I agree with you.>>228436307>Shirou can't save those orphans.
He might've been able to with an omnipotent wish granting device, but he refuses such a thing. That was the point of the basement scene. >that ideal is never really challenged or even explored in Fate.
Fate establishes how going down the path does not guarantee you will be rewarded, like how Saber in her own life was not rewarded for following her ideals as a king. The relationship of a hero with the world around him is established as Shirou comes to terms with his role in a world that does not need him. That was the point.